May 17, 2002
Friday Quiz #15

Today's Quiz question is a little dysfunctional:

If you have proposagnosia, what are you unable to do?

First correct answer posted to comments wins a picture of Dr. Art Stukas thinking very hard.

If you're playing for the first time, the only rule is that we ask you to eschew Googling for the answer or going to the reference shelf. Multiple guesses are welcome.

Posted by BT at May 17, 2002 08:05 AM
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Well, let's break it down: proposagnosia

Fortunately I have taken no Latin to slow me down.

pro = professional, in favor of
pos = pose, may be combined with first syll. for propose
agno = strikingly similar to Agamemnon, leader of the Greeks in the Trojan war
sia = sounds like "see ya" but only one letter away from Asia

Therefore, proposagnosia means unable to sit still in front of a monarch and instead leaving the room. Or leaving Asia.

Either that or an inability to age.

Posted by: teenidol on May 17, 2002 09:47 AM

Write research proposals?
Predict the future?

Come out in favor of posagnosia?

Posted by: Gavin on May 17, 2002 10:13 AM

James, you are setting a new standard for crackpot etymologists everywhere.

I'll provide a hint in a couple of hours if necessary.

Posted by: BT on May 17, 2002 12:54 PM

looks to me like a condition that could lead to bigamy, which is a crime in 49 of our 50 united states. proposagnosiacs tend to enter into oral contracts to become wed (that is, engagements; i.e., they propose) and then immediately forget about them (rather like an amnesiac would). sometimes even the fulfillment of these proposals gets carried out and then forgotten... multiple times. hence, bigamy.

other guesses: proposagnosiacs are unable to

  1. stop obsessing over the whiskey rebellion;
  2. deliver the prizes promised when administering online quiz games.

Posted by: mlang on May 17, 2002 12:58 PM

from the Nouveau French, "prop" = meaning "dirty, dirty, dirty"

and the greek, agnostic = meaning "i don't know nothing about no _____"

and the English "proposal"

Altogether this means "I have no idea about your filthy proposal." Which is what hard-thinking Dr.s of Social Psychology might hear on a bad day, no?

Posted by: bootsy on May 17, 2002 01:04 PM

I thought I nailed it.

inability to believe in religion
inability to leave your property
inability to show sound judgement

Posted by: teenidol on May 17, 2002 01:30 PM

Smell?

Posted by: Rory on May 17, 2002 01:51 PM

Oh, hang on, that's anosmia.

Refrain from entering comments-based competitions?

Posted by: Rory on May 17, 2002 01:52 PM

Inability to smell is 'Anosmia', which figures into Martin Amis's "The Information" -- the guys in the pub at the paranoid main character's health club call said PMC 'Anosmia,' which the PMC takes to mean that he's unaware that he walks around all day smelling like poop, when, in fact, the guys in the PATPMCHC just remember that the PMC defined anosmia correctly on the pub quiz machine.

I'll guess 'travel in propeller-propelled aircraft.' That just has to be it.

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 01:57 PM

In case I'm wrong about the airplane, I'll make a more sincere, but likely no less accurate guess that the answer is "make up one's mind." Yes, absolutely.

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 02:01 PM

the inability to dance?

Posted by: Jeff on May 17, 2002 02:03 PM

Now we know why Sally can't dance no more, clinically speaking.

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 02:05 PM

The condition of being pissed-off at the mistress or master who was supposed to make sure that the diva had the goddam squirrel IN HER HAT for the big balloon dropping number. Dammit.

Posted by: bootsy on May 17, 2002 02:07 PM

Ardilla ausente [singing]

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 02:20 PM

Inability to ask questions?

Posted by: boxjam on May 17, 2002 02:24 PM

the inability to suppress a pureile grin and act properly concerned when someone mentions suffering from angina (due to the absurd similarity shared by the name of that serious ailment and an aspect of the female anatomy).

Posted by: mlang on May 17, 2002 02:38 PM

Not just acute angina, but major, major tourette's, too.

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 02:50 PM

All right, a bit of a hint: it's a not-uncommon symptom of autism. Lesions in certain parts of the brain have been known to cause proposagnosia.

Posted by: BT on May 17, 2002 03:36 PM

Inability to speak?

Posted by: scott on May 17, 2002 03:46 PM

the inability to live any semblance of a dignified life because it's so vitally important that hollywood actors win academy awards with mawkish portrayals of the developmentally disabled that lead inevitably not towards greater understanding in the community at large but to ever more mockery: 'check this out: he's just like rain man...', etc.

Posted by: mlang on May 17, 2002 04:17 PM

One is unable to form original sentences?

Posted by: boxjam on May 17, 2002 05:13 PM

The excesses of Sean Penn, Dustin Hoffman, and their colleagues aside I'm not sure the mentally disabled were treated with perfect dignity in the pre-Rain Man era, either, but maybe I'm just not remembering correctly.

By the way, you're all still wrong. I'll give you one more hint -- it is not verbal. One can speak and understand English perfectly and still suffer from this disorder. It has nothing to do with writing, either.

Posted by: BT on May 17, 2002 05:19 PM

proposagnosia: the inability to design, build, or arrange props for any members of the Screen Actor's Guild?

Posted by: jess on May 17, 2002 07:10 PM

inability to sneeze in the company of others while eating, especially in diners featuring three letters of a first name and a possessive apostrophe-s, followed by the word "Diner"

Posted by: hackly on May 17, 2002 08:21 PM

The inability to separate signal from noise? Or signal from other irrelevant signal?

Posted by: Kathleen on May 17, 2002 09:49 PM

Many of us already know that agnosia describes an inability to recognize objects (we ran across the word while looking up 'agnostic' during our pre-pubescent brain-stuffing-for-the-hell-of-it period).

So, propos is the tough part...gotta come up with something that, together with agnosia forms a word useful enough to describe a debilitating condition...

Proprium?

Proprium (property?) is that which permits individuation - the ability to discern specific characteristics which deviate from, yet still fit within, a generic template. So maybe proposagnosia describes an inability to recognize differences between individual members of a genus, even though the ability to recognize the genus itself remains intact.

Whether the genus is potatoes or people is unclear to me. I'd guess people (anthropocentricity).

But I can't say whether it means the difference between self and others, or others and others, or both. Proprium itself has a certain 'selfhood' connotation...at least I think it does...so I'd guess maybe proposagnosia describes an inability to differentiate self from others, but whether the word limits itself to visual comparisons of physical characteristics, or somehow extends itself to include auditory, even metaphysical comparisons, I can't say.

This is getting hard. Fun schmun. Proposadnauseum. I'm gonna Google it. Right now.

Posted by: Opus Dark on May 17, 2002 10:31 PM

Opus Dark is right about agnosia -- what it is that people with this disability can't recognize is the issue. Differentiation of self from others, however, is a whole other kettle of neuropsychological fish.

Posted by: BT on May 18, 2002 11:26 AM

Since I haven't googled, it falls on me to keep guessing, I suppose:

They can't recognize propeller planes?
They can't recognize the relative size of things?
They can't recognize good manners?

Posted by: Gavin on May 19, 2002 11:20 AM

I just *know* that Oliver Sacks has written about this. Can't recognize one's wife? Or hat?

Posted by: Rory on May 19, 2002 01:22 PM

Rory is in something which may or may not be the ballpark.

Posted by: BT on May 19, 2002 08:19 PM

Is it - you can't recognise people? (You would never have the "looks familiar; can't remember the name" problem).

Posted by: Garthmeister J on May 19, 2002 08:33 PM

The inability to differentiate sentient, living beings from inert, vegetable or fecal matter, dead things and carcasses, etc via sense of smell. ?

Posted by: bootsy on May 19, 2002 08:37 PM

So in the picture, is Dr. StukeAss thinking very hard about what proposagnosia might be? Or more foreboddingly still, is the nut who proposed this quiz? 'Cause if he did...

Posted by: bootsy on May 19, 2002 08:39 PM

Oh, hell. Bit of a spelling error. See above, please. The lesson here is that you can use sources on the Web to check your spelling when you can't find the original print reference...but they may contain the same mistake you're making.

For the reference, the hard-thinking Dr. Stukas has nothing to do with this question. The offering of his thoughtful visage as reward is just more of our typical whimsy. Blame not the Stuke.

Posted by: BT on May 19, 2002 11:23 PM

I have returned from my slumber (see Awakenings) but I also don't have the answer tingling in my axons or dendrites (or the synapse between, more likely). At any rate, thanks for making my ears burn.

Posted by: He Whose Name is Used in Vain on May 20, 2002 10:25 PM

**trumpets**

He Rises!

Posted by: BT on May 21, 2002 08:58 AM