You're just trying to freeze out the Tasmanian-based-in-Scotland contestants, aren't you?

Nic O'Teen. Running mate to the Prez.

http://newkadia.safeshopper.com/1328/58467.htm?187

Not at all, Rory. Going by past performance, globetrotting Tasmanians are favored contenders in the American history category.

That's an amazing-looking volume, by the way. I like his "you had your chance" message to the people.

Teddy Roosevelt?

Rockefeller - running with Gerald Ford.

I think Rocky served as VP after Nixon's resignation, but Dole was actually Ford's VP candidate in '76.

MacArthur?

Gavin's guess caused me to realize that I made a vital typo in formulating the original question. TR doesn't make the cut on a technicality -- he was the veep nominee in 1900, which is by many lights in the 19th century. Point is, my original formulation was more specific, limiting the question to nominees since 1928. But in putting the question together late last night, I forgot about the date-specific cutoff and wrote "in the 20th century." Apologies.

On to Nelson Rockefeller -- Gavin is correct, he was never his party's VP nominee. Dole ran with Ford in 1976.

To be clearer -- the man we are seeking ran for V.P. in a post-1928 election, never served in Congress, and left his mark on history in another capacity entirely.

MacArthur enjoyed a brief wave of public support for a Presidential run after Truman relieved him of his Korean command in 1951. But then there were Congressional hearings that involved him and that seems to have pulled the rug out from under any dreams of running for the White House MacArthur might have had. He didn't run, and basically retired from public life.

It's also in the twentieth century by many lights!

I demand a share of the prize! Maybe the dustcover, or the glossy photo insert of Ric Flair's greatest foes.

Nixon?

I feel your pain, Gavin. How about a slightly damaged CD single of "I Want to be a Hulkamaniac" from Hulk Hogan and the Wrestling Boot Band?

Jonathan, your guess is well off -- Nixon made his name politically with his vigorous attacks on pinkos while serving in both the House and the Senate.

I couldn't remember what he had done before being Ike's VP other than governor of California. Sold shoes, I thought. And I admit that "left his mark on history in another capacity entirely" would seem to point to someone else.

Makes me wonder who was Goldwater's running mate.

Goldwater ran with William Miller, a New York congressman and the RNC chairman at the time. Apparently it was his reputation for political hardball that got him selected. Which is odd -- one would have thought that Barry himself would have embodied all the necessary toughness.

I'll go, then, with George Marshall, whom Bill loves.

Love Marshall though I do, he never ran for elective office in his entire career.

I have two possible guesses, neither of which will be correct. The first is that old lovable CIA director, George H. W. Bush...

...and the second is Eisenhower.

Bush 41 was a two-term congressman from Texas before he went on to a bunch of appointee positions, running alongside Reagan in 1980 after losing the nomination for President.

Eisenhower never ran as a vice-presidential candidate -- he was drafted by the GOP to run for President without ever considering the No. 2 job.

One more point of clarification: the person in question was never elected Vice-President or President.

And it was a Democratic or Republican ticket, which rules out Adm. James Stockdale and Ru Paul.

Oh, damn. I was just about to guess Stockdale.

Cluesville: his legacy is in his work in an appointed position.

Also, he was a Republican.

"Bricker defeats Barkley": headline from basketball or alternate history?

Drug Czar Bill "Big Money" Bennett?

VP nominee on a losing Republican ticket since 1928; this puts us before Goldwater, to Dewey's running mate or one of FDR's opponents, and yet why would an opponent of FDR get appointed to something, unless it was UN Rep?
It ain't Pat Paulin.

J. Edgar Hoover

If not George Marsall, maybe Gary Marshall.

Damn, I was trying to find an article I read yesterday that linked to celebrities' political donations when I found the answer to your question.

I'm out.

"...and yet why would an opponent of FDR get appointed to something, unless it was UN Rep?"

He didn't say it was a presidentially-appointed position. He didn't even say it was a government position. And he didn't say the appointment happened during the administration he lost to.

Notwithstanding the above, Al Haig.

Yeah, I think you're right, boxjam. I got distracted with Rockefeller, who was appointed to VP but didn't run with Ford in 1972.

It makes this:

>One more point of clarification:
>the person in question was never
>elected Vice-President or President

a particularly sweet clue.

Except, when was Haig the vp candidate?

Just because the day is getting on, I'll note that it was a Presidentially appointed position in which the man we seek made his lasting fame.

And to the best of my knowledge, Haig was never nominated for V.P. He did have a momentary delusion that he was No. 3 in succession as Secretary of State. But that's not quite the same thing.

"I'm in charge here!"
Hmm. Given the wombat's predilections for tying history to current events, he's leading us to a CIA director.

William Casey?

Not Kissinger?

Or J. Edgar Hoover?

For the first time ever, I have pre-googled. So I'm out. But it's a good one.

what, the quiz is still on?

C. Everett Koop (or was it Coop)?

Bork!

(I just like saying that)

Sorry I couldn't follow up sooner, but I got busy with child care yesterday afternoon and Saturday has a way of getting away from me.

So, as we go into overtime, a few more clues: he has something in common, sort of, with Richard Gephardt, although in his case a major newspaper erroneously reported that he had been elected v-p, rather than merely chosen by one of the nominees as a running mate.

Secondly, his last elective job was as Governor of a large state. But in his eventual appointive position he did stuff that makes him a more historically prominent figure.

I'm quite sorry that I began this quiz with one of my usual bonehead mistakes in formulating the question, as I'm pleased to have stumped you all so far (Not that I stumped Gavin w/r/t the question as it appeared yesterday morning. But even if he must be credited with the real win and our speculation here is merely an afterthought, I'm proud to have led the chase for this long anyway.)

By the way, I presume that Scott is on vacation? No Alf votes yet...

Okay, well the bonus points are low-hanging fruit at this point: this was Dewey's VP candidate.

The actual man himself? I guess Earl Warren, later of the Supremes (along with Flo Ballard and Cindy Birdsong.

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Gavin scores a karmically-justified victory: Earl Warren, former California governor*, ran with Dewey in '48. They lost, of course, to Truman (and Kentucky Senator Alben Barkeley).

In 1953, Eisenhower appointed Warren Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and his leadership of the court in groundbreaking civil rights decisions inflamed conservatives, who felt betrayed. Heh.

Of course, there was also the Warren commission...

Thanks to all for sticking with a long-drawn-out quiz this week.

Incidentally, on the last two Fridays in August I will be out of town and unavailable to run the quiz. Anyone with an interest in dog-day quizmastering should let me know.

*During which service he presided over the internment of Japanese-Americans in camps. The irony of his later role as a prime mover of civil rights reform was not lost on the man himself, who had the good grace in his memoirs to regret his part in such a blot on U.S. history.

Damn, for some reason I remembered Dewey's running mate as John W. Bricker. I think he served in Congress, anyway.

Sorry, yes, I was off in the woods, doing manly things like making fires, drinking cheap Irish whiskey, and discussing the virtues of various pieces of pricey camping gear with my wife.

On Saturday, in steady rain, we hiked to a historic firetower on the Va./W.Va border with a stunning view of the surrounding area (natch.)

Usually. On Saturday, the view was like that from the inside of a glass of milk. Maybe a glass that has a forest scene printed on the outside, as some dim tree shapes were visible in the shifting fog. It all would have been OK if there had been a Starbucks up there. Fancy hiking to the only GPS coords remaining in the lower 48 without a Starbucks.

Anyhow, sorry to have made you all wait:

Norman Fell.

I always thought it would have been cool to have an verb or adverb as a surname. It just occured to me that Normal Fell is a case in point. Eric Quick was a great DJ name. Is that how he spelled it?

I don't remember his first name, but I have records by DJ Quik.