I'll post the answers and more on the guesses later this morning, but for now, here are the standings. Remember, this is just round 1, so it's still anyone's game.
Scraps 520
Gavin 360
Scott 320
Terry 280
Art 240
Boxjam 200
Hackly Fracture 180
Jonathan 140
Laura 100
Garthmeister 100
Rory 80
The only question which proved a Universal Stumper was #10. Only one person got #3 correct, and most got only half-credit for #9 (there was one full-credit answer there, but it came in after the clues were posted). The rest were a mix.
More shortly.
Posted by BT at December 10, 2004 10:44 AM"What I actually thought I'd do is post people's scores and tell them which they got correct, and then let everyone entertain themselves on Friday by guessing about the others for, you know, fun."
Screw that. Post your answers and whether you changed or stood, and we should be able to deduce correct answers mostly (except #10).
1) Smoking (stood)
2) Jack London (changed)
3) first live music broadcast (changed)
4) "The Adventurers" (changed)
5) Austro-Hungary (stood - hoping they re-united just before WWI or something)
6) Goodyear (changed)
7) No idea what the nick for the International Workers' whatever is - I said 'Socialists' (changed)
8) Blue (stood)
9) Slaves (stood)
10) UNICEF (changed)
P.S. I lost fifty points! What the @#*!&@!!?
Posted by: boxjam on December 10, 2004 10:48 AMHooray!
Due to my tardiness, my amazing comeback-from-nil-to-win-it-all strategy is working!
Posted by: teenidol on December 10, 2004 10:53 AMI guessed the Shriners on #10; it wouldn't surprise me if it was something else of that ilk like the Lions Club, or the Elks Club, or the Rotarians.
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 11:03 AM1. Smoking (stood)
2. Hemingway (changed)
3. Sachertorte (hungry)
4. The Scarlet Pimpernel (the only one I positively, absolutely knew immediately, although it took me awhile to come up with Daffy Duck and The Scarlet Pumpernickel)
5. Austria & Hungary (stood)
6. GE (stood)
7. Wobblies (stood). Only knew nickname -- couldn't remember the offical name.
8. Blue (stood)
9. Slave trade (stood)
10. At least I'm not the only one who took a potshot with Shriners. Mostly I just liked to think of those guys with fezzes hanging out in Moscow now.
1. Smoking (stood)
2. Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain (stood, for lack of any inspiration at all)
3. First symphonic recordings of Mozart ('s music)(changed)
4. No first guess, clue led me to Scarlet Pimpernel
5. Sweden and Denmark (changed, bit on Austria-Hungary, though I felt wrong about it)
6. Hewlett Packard (changed)
7. The Wobblies (stood)
8. I'll say Pink (since Blue is probably too obvious, which makes it unobvious, so obviously. . .) (stood)
9. Human Trafficking (stood)
10.World Federalist Association (changed, to the John Birch Society, founded in 1958, as it turns out.) (Bah)
Well, there was only one full credit for #9; therefore it was not slavery, or (I assume it's close enough to be the same), human trade.
I got 2 and a half (or 1 and 3 halves, or 5 halves). None of them were 4, 7, 9, or 10.
Wobblies is looking good (you guys seem certain). Scarlet Pimpernel is obvious, now that I hear it.
Posted by: boxjam on December 10, 2004 11:34 AMSo are y'all saying you sent in new answers after the clues? Must review rules, though it doesn't matter this round as I turned everything in after the clues.
1. Smoking
2. Jack London (hey Boxjam!)
3. Airshow
4. Munchausen
5. Denmark/Norway
6. Goodyear
7. Wobblies
8. Airbrush (I think I may have missed this one)
9. White Slavery (ewww)
10. Optimists' Club
Thought to check the wombat last night, as the thing was winding down, so all my answers were from the hip and for half credit.
1. smoking
2. Jack London (live about 10 miles from here in Kenwood, so a gimme)
3. chain saw ice sculpture (they had to invent the chain saw first)
4. The Scarlet Pimpernell (I was at a loss on the animated parody; I didn't think Land of the Lost was based on a novel. Nor was it animated, come to think of it.)
5. Austria-Hungary
6. General Electric (though that's clearly way out, what with Thomas Edison and so forth. Lord Kelvin founded the company that eventually became Cable and Wireless, though I don't know if he was the son of a lord or not, or what it was originally called, and that's got nothing to do with Ford.) Maybe this is General Motors?
7. Communist Party (lame, it seems)
8. Blue
9. trade in humans (slavery)
10. World Health Organization (although I like UNICEF)
1. Breastfeeding
2. Jack London (changed from Wells)
3. First Tesla coil
4. The Scarlet Pimpernel (changed from The Man in the Iron Mask)
5. Austria and Hungary
6. Rolls-Royce
7. The Wobblies
8. Rose
9. Slave-trafficking
10. The Shriners
I appear to have gotten four and a half right, or since I suspect 2, 4 and 9 were half-credit, it's more likely that I got three right and three half-right. I'd posit that my fully correct answers were 6, 7, and 8.
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 11:40 AMJack London seems good.
I'm relatively certain GE is *not* right for 6, because I recall it's the only company that's been on the Dow composite of 30 Industrials from the beginning (which is before 1904).
How does one arrive at a score of 180, or 140? I thought full was 80, half was 40.
Posted by: boxjam on December 10, 2004 11:45 AMBoxjam: A half-right answer posted in the post-clue period would get you 20 points.
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 11:49 AMWhy, oh why, did this fest begin during the last week of classes/close of pre-registration/height of letter-of-recommendation season/absolute final deadline for ordering next semester's books week?
Ach. I'd be dragging up the rear one way or another. This way, at least I get to gripe.
On tap next week: complaining about term-paper grading. Stay tuned!
Posted by: KF on December 10, 2004 11:51 AMJack London is from America? That's just not right. Unless his middle name is "New," I guess.
I'm thinking I got fulls for Smoking, Wobblies, and Pink, half for Pimpernel (late), and Human Trafficking (not quite right?)
I did some Googling on answers that were locked in for me, and so I know some additional corrects, since I didn't realize we'd be hashing things out in public here today. I'm pretty sure I can give you the corrects for 5,6, and 10, but that would be unsporting. I sure couldn't work the search engine to get that Graz, Austia answer to come out, though I didn't try too hard.
Posted by: Scott on December 10, 2004 11:55 AMI think we'll have to initiate a bonus "lightning round" next week to allow teenidol and KF a chance to join in...
Meanwhile:
The Answers
1. The woman was smoking.
(Not everyone got this, but many did).
2. Jack London was the author of this passage from the nautical novel The Sea-Wolf
(Hemingway was a popular answer)
3. The first radio broadcast of a musical performance was made in Graz, although I have been unable to find anyone who knows what the composition broadcasted was. Only Mr. Fracture
4. The Scarlet Pimpernel -- which many guessed correctly, and which at least one of you, like myself, remembers chiefly from repeat exposure to Daffy Duck as "The Scarlet Pumpernickel."
5. The countries in question were Sweden and Norway -- Norway had been for a century the not-particularly-willing partner in a political union, and at the turn of the century a popular movement for independence arose. The spilt was politically tense but peaceful. Prince Carl of Denmark was determined to be the heir to the Norwegian throne, and was crowned King Haakon of Norway.
(Many answered Austria-Hungary on this one. Half-credit given if you got one but not both of the countries right)
6. Rolls-Royce
(I thought this one was easier than it turned out to be. Rolls was the aristocrat, by the way.)
7. They were for reasons that are still debated, known as "Wobblies." One theory of the etymology traces it to a strange Chinese-American attempt to pronounce the group's initials. More at: http://www.iww.org/culture/myths/wobbly.shtml
8. The Pink (or Rose) period followed the Blue period, and predated Picasso's move into Cubism. Full credit to either Pink or Rose as an answer.
9. The subject of the agreement was "White Slavery" -- which is to say, the international trafficking in sexual slaves/prostitutes, most of whom were of course nonwhite. (Half-credit given to all slavery/human trafficking answers.)
10. The Rotarians. (Another one I thought would be easier).
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 12:05 PMAll I can say is, there's something royal in Denmark.
Apparently we still don't know when the chainsaw was invented, neither do we care.
Figures.
Posted by: Jonathan on December 10, 2004 12:10 PMSorry, that should have read --
3. The first radio broadcast of a musical performance was made in Graz, although I have been unable to find anyone who knows what the composition broadcasted was. Only Mr. Fracture got that one right (in the post-clue period).
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 12:12 PM>> Boxjam: A half-right answer posted in the post-clue period would get you 20 points.
That's what you get for the "Mercedes-Royce" guess.
Posted by: teenidol on December 10, 2004 12:12 PMI think question #10 would have been fairly easy if it had been a regular Friday question--somebody would have gotten it in the first wave of guesses--but with just one shot, it was hard to figure which group of that ilk it would be.
A fine slate of questions, Mr. Quizmaster! Bring on round two!
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 12:16 PMSo, did I not get #3 because I didn't use the word 'radio' or because I said 'live'?
Posted by: boxjam on December 10, 2004 12:16 PMAlas, I must ask to be docked. I meant "airshow" as in "display of flying machines" with or without the obligatory (Simpsons-rip-off) "Rock Me Like a Hurricane" soundtrack.
Quite nice how I managed to be vague enough to get myself some extra points. Also, of course by "Airbrush" I meant "Rose"
I am in error -- but only in the post-game analysis, not the tally.
I reported wrongly in the above comment, but scored correctly: Boxjam, you got 40 points for submitting "Live Musical Broadcast" for #3, in the post-clue period. Hackly got zero for his answer, which I did understand to involve wing-walking and not woodwinds.
Sorry about that.
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 12:33 PMSpeaking as a consumer, I must say it's an odd feeling to be doing post-game wrapup, tossing cups of Gatorade at each other, on a Friday instead of actually firing off guesses.
BTW, Anne asked this morning if you've thought of outsourcing the quiz to India?
Gavin -- your point about #10 is well taken.
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 12:56 PMI "earned" my 5th place status by getting 1 1/2 right at the start and holding them--and then making three clue-aided correct changes (thanks for the tips, Tipper). I wuz blanked completely on 5 (even the now immediately apparent "smoking"). duh, I thought the Rose period was earlier than the Blue period. I was sure that Graz was famous for the zipper (and how artistic is that!)
Posted by: art on December 10, 2004 01:57 PMBT - I thought I put in "slave trade" post-clue period for #9, and I got "The Scarlet Pimpernel" straight off... should I have more than my 100 points?
And where should I send my bribe?
Posted by: Garthmeister J. on December 10, 2004 02:11 PMAfter I had submitted all my answers, I looked up all the answers, and was sure that Rolls-Royce was wrong and that I should have said Austin!
More quotes from genre novels, please!
"Rotarians" makes me slap my head. I did consider "Knights of Columbus."
Posted by: Scraps on December 10, 2004 02:41 PMThank you for giving me half-credit for idiotically saying "The Sea-Wolf+ rather than "Jack London."
Posted by: Scraps on December 10, 2004 02:46 PMLaura?! A thousand nos, 'twas TLBY who came in so low.
Posted by: The Lady B. Yogurt on December 10, 2004 02:54 PMAny chance the next round will be from the 1907-09 period? Should I be studying up on Henry Ford and WEB DuBois?
Posted by: teenidol on December 10, 2004 03:35 PM
Garth, I've rechecked, and this is what I have for you...
1. Juggling (0)
2. H.G. Wells (0)
3. First movie theater opened (0)
4. The Scarlet Pimpernel (80)
5. Austria/Hungary (0)
6. Goodyear (0)
7. Red Cross (0)
8. Carnival (0)
9. slave trade -- half right, after the clue (20)
10. Salk Institute (0)
Hence, 100 points.
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 03:38 PMI apologise BT - my own fault. For some reason I thought round 1 was 100 points apiece. I blame being out on the town last night and bumming cigarettes off Kevin Spacey (I am not making this up).
Posted by: Garthmeister J. on December 10, 2004 03:44 PMIt sounds like someone should share with the class.
Posted by: BT on December 10, 2004 04:22 PMDo I get extra points if I submit correct answers for the next quiz prior to Monday?
Posted by: Scott on December 10, 2004 04:31 PMWhat brand does Kevin smoke?
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 04:51 PM(And fret not, Garthmeister--Bill thought the point values were 100 per question too, leading to the posting of some incorrect totals before he fixed the math.)
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 04:52 PMGavin's point about #10 is good; however, I was surprised at least *somebody* got each of the other 9.
So the format worked pretty darn well.
How many would we have been completely stumped on had Scraps not knocked most of them out?
Posted by: boxjam on December 10, 2004 05:05 PMThese were my guesses:
1: Smoking.
2: The Sea-Wolf. I think I got half-credit or something.
3: Color photography.
4: The Scarlet Pimpernel.
5: Norway and Sweden.
6: Rolls-Royce.
7: The Wobblies.
8: Blue, revised to Rose.
9: Human beings, i.e. slavery.
10: totally baffled, no guess
So I think I got five of them pre-hint (1, 4, 5, 6, 7), of which one (smoking) was a confident guess and one (Rolls-Royce) was a wild-ass guess. I was only sure of four, and blew one of those (Jack London).
Posted by: Scraps on December 10, 2004 05:38 PMOK - Kevin Spacey story.
I'm an Australian (some of you may know) currently living in Washington DC. Last night I was dragged out to a Christmas/charity event, which I'm all about: drinking for the kids.
A fairly nondescript evening, though at about 12:30am we decided to grab something to eat, going to Paolo's in Georgetown. As the waitress met us, Alli (bless he heart) demands we are seated at a particular booth. Alli and Kelley quickly slid into one side of the booth, leaving me to take the other side. I didn't think much of this, until Alli made me move over to one side of the booth.
The puzzled look on my face gave my confused state away, so Alli leaned over and whispered in my ear: "Don't look now, but Kevin Spacey is sitting behind you."
So, a few minutes later - yes, I spied the star of such flicks as "The Usual Suspects" and "American Beauty". And watched as a girl went up and won the award for "Most Vacuous Conversation I Have Ever Overheard". Though Spacey and his Unknown Companion were very nice about it.
They eventually went to leave, and Alli and Kelley decided they would try and bum a cigarette of Spacey (Marlboro Lights, for thos curious). Unfortunately the method the girls were employing was akin to attempting to get the attention of a surly waiter. So I turned in my seat, caught Kevin's eye and said "Can we grab a cigarette mate?"
"Sure," and he proferred a couple of cigarettes. As he and Mr. Unknown got up, the slid over to us and Mr. Unknown introduced himself as "Andy" (I think), to the girls. I instantaly say "Oh, he's English," to no one in particular (smooth, huh). Kevin turns to me and asks "Oh, where are you from?" So we talked about Australia for a while (apparently he has been to Perth, where I'm from, and we talked about Cairns and the Great Barrier Reef).
And with that - pfft - he was gone.
How was that for anti-climactic?
Posted by: Garthmeister J. on December 10, 2004 05:40 PMSo we still would have collectively gotten nine out of ten without the mighty Scraps (or maybe eight and a half--I'm not sure anybody else got full credit on Sweden/Norway). It wasn't that Scraps was getting questions that nobody else was getting; it's just that he was getting so many of them.
Posted by: Gavin on December 10, 2004 05:47 PMfor what it's worth, my one full credit point was for "sweden-norway" (but my psychic powers failed me elswhere)
Posted by: art on December 10, 2004 07:06 PMI'm pretty sure that Scott, at least, would be interested to know that Graz played host to the Ice Art Championship of 2002, and that renowned renowned ice sculptor J. Hödl and his international ice sculpting team will once again create a Christmas crèche this year made entirely from ice in the courtyard of the Landhaus.
And that a photo of the 2003 crèche made from 42 "tonnes" (those Swedes!) of ice is at http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_843596.html?menu=news.quirkie.
Cool story, Garth.
Posted by: Gavin on December 11, 2004 01:07 AMWhat a great story, Garthmeister! And awfully modest of you to leave out the part about the storm, the shipwreck, the psychotic mutual girlfriend, the mysterious baby, the beautiful paramedic, and the heroic puppy.
Posted by: opus dark on December 11, 2004 05:41 AMLate to the party again, but here were my late entries for half points:
1. Breast-feeding.
2. First guessed Joseph Conrad, switched to H. Rider Haggard when I read the clues.
3. First guessed a radio broadcast, switched (d'oh!) to motion pictures.
4. The Scarlet Pimpernel
5. Russia and Finland
6. Rolls Royce
7. Rotary (right answer, but wrong question)
8. Blue (Well, some of those harlequins looked pretty unhappy, didn't they?)
9. Trade in endangered species
10. The International Red Cross
Garthmeister, offer him any thorazine---honesty, Bobby F. Darrin?
My 2p:
1. Breast-feeding.
2. John Steinbeck
3. Structurally engineered soil.
4. The Adventures of Baron von Munchhauen?
5. Bonia and Herzcegovinia
6. Aston-Martin (Healey)
7. Wobblies
8. Rose
9. Slavery, trafficking of humans
10. Catholic Charities, Inc.
About to go get crushed by the new questions. Eep.