January 17, 2003
Friday Quiz #46: Six Degrees of Gavination

Being swept up in Potter Pre-Sale Madness this week at work, we begged sometime Guest Quiz-Lord Gavin to make a special appearance and provide today's Friday Quiz. Tremble in happy fear, readers, for he hath Brought the Noise. To wit, the very first word puzzle Wombat File Quiz. I'll let the man himself tell you all about it:

I am thinking of six different words, all in the dictionary, none obscure, most used in everyday speech. With each of them, if you lop a single letter off the front, the results will be a new word--one with twice as many syllables as the original word. (For example, if "ombat" was a real word, and if it had four syllables [which would be weird as hell, but we're just exampling here], then "wombat" would qualify as one of our select six.)

Your collective challenge is to name all six. Five of the words have the same final letter, and the sixth has a different one. Additionally, the sixth word is an adjective which, when truncated, becomes a noun. The golden laurel will go to the Wombat Contestant who names the sixth word, which ends with a letter different from the other five.

Players should eschew the use of Google or "Smart Drinks" during the quiz. First correct post of the whole set to comments wins an actual laurel, made of solid gold, which Gavin will ship via courier from his residence in a charming tax haven in the Lesser Antilles.

Posted by BT at January 17, 2003 10:05 AM
Comments

Hmmm. Does scoop -s = coop, the place where you buy poop-grown veggies, rather than the place where the chickens make the poop, count, or does it require a - to actually make it co-op, thus disqualifying it?

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 10:25 AM

A clever guess, but as you surmise, coop is one syllable unless you add a hyphen (in my dictionary, anyway), so scoop does not qualify, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Gavin on January 17, 2003 10:37 AM

If hyphens disqualify you, how about diacritics? I'm thinking "spate" and "pate" (as in "pate de foie gras," not "Captain Steubing's shiny pate").

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 11:02 AM

Liane Hansen, the Boxer Rebellion, and the Defenestration of Prague

Posted by: Jonathan on January 17, 2003 11:28 AM

Now, just because we're playing a word game, does that mean we have to mention Liane "Ooh, that was a toughie!" Hansen?

Posted by: BT on January 17, 2003 11:29 AM

Aha--Prague proves useful. It suggests "vague" and "ague." Defenestration suggests nothing, however, except a good idea of what to do with Liane.

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 11:36 AM

My thinking on this is complicated by having grown up in the south, where a lot of dipthongs and even single-vowel words grow in syllabacity. (e.g. "Bill" = "Be-al")

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 11:42 AM

Now hold on just a goll-dang cotton pickin' minute:

"if you lop a single letter off the front, the results will be a new word--one with twice as many syllables as the original word. (For example, if 'ombat' was a real word, and if it had four syllables [which would be weird as hell, but we're just exampling here], then 'wombat' would qualify"

Are we shootin' for twice as many syllables, or half as many? Are we goin' from four to eight, or four to two? How much time if left on the clock? What's in his glove? Who bet on the swan to live?

Posted by: Jonathan on January 17, 2003 11:45 AM

Oh. Start with "wombat" at two syllables and go to "ombat" with four. Sorry, I got lost in your crazy moon language.

Posted by: Jonathan on January 17, 2003 11:48 AM

Okay, Jonathan has figured out matters for himself.
All addition of diacritical marks and accents is verboten.
Terry has won the golden laurel (with a Czechoslovakian assist from Jonathan) with the adjective "vague," which he correctly notes doubles its syllables when it becomes "ague."
But there are still five other words available, and those Wombatters who name them will be covered in glory.

Posted by: Gavin on January 17, 2003 12:32 PM

I can't but think that the French are somehow involved. . .

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 01:10 PM

A serendipitous trip to the dictionary brings me trial/rial, though rial really isn't a common word, is it?

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 01:22 PM

(ague was in last Sunday's Times crossword puzzle, just to keep the whole Hansen/Shortz thang going.)

Yeah, I'm unemployed . . . what's it to ya?

Posted by: hackly_fracture on January 17, 2003 01:34 PM

Well, "baa" and "aa" (say "ah-ah" and think some kind of lava in Hawaii) are both in Web. III, but perhaps they shouldn't be, and they certainly aren't any more common than Scott's "rial."

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 01:44 PM

"Trial" has two syllables, as does "rial," so it doesn't qualify. "Aa" is much more obscure than we were looking for, although it gains a point for miscellaneous cleverness.

The most obscure of the five remaining words was, by far, "twinged," which produces the two-syllable "winged." The remaining four are substantially more common than that--and remain to be guessed.

Posted by: Gavin on January 17, 2003 01:55 PM

Damn, I swear I thought of this before Gavin's hint:

raged, aged

Posted by: hackly_fracture on January 17, 2003 02:00 PM

and, I suppose, paged and aged. I'm out. Go team!

Posted by: hackly_fracture on January 17, 2003 02:03 PM

My Random House College Dictionary gives the option of a one-syllable trial. And 'twinged' has at least one and a half.

I thought 'ism' was promising, but 'jism' isn't in my RHCD, and I've always heard it pronounced bisyllabically, anyway.

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 02:03 PM

Hackley --

Now you're composting with worms!

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 02:03 PM

Aw, hell, it's Friday. Nearly forgot.

id (pronouned "Aye-Dee") and lid (pronounced "lid")?

I bet Games magazine would take that.

Posted by: boxjam on January 17, 2003 02:05 PM

So the French aren't responsible after all: -ed is the key, is it? How about "raged" and "aged" (adj.)?

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 02:06 PM

Rats--she who hesitates to post is lost.

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 02:07 PM

Cringed, ringed.

Posted by: boxjammed on January 17, 2003 02:11 PM

By the way, I've discovered there are about 62,000 words where if you add one letter the beginning, it adds a syllable.

Who can name all of those?

Posted by: boxjamue on January 17, 2003 02:17 PM

reify
roseate
aerate
ionize
syzygy
aphelion
crumble
oiseau
lignite
Let me know if I'm getting close here.

Posted by: Jonathan on January 17, 2003 02:44 PM

climbed, imbed.

Posted by: boxjam on January 17, 2003 03:39 PM

Here's a bonus-time word question -- what common word retains its spelling in the plural, but is pronounced differently. Actually, I think there are two very similar words with this property, though I can't right at the moment recall the second.

Posted by: Scott on January 17, 2003 03:47 PM

Climbed/imbed is snazzy. If "climbed" doesn't count because it needs two letters lopped off, limbed/imbed ought to do it.

Posted by: terry on January 17, 2003 03:56 PM

That's what I meant! Dang it!

Posted by: boxjam on January 17, 2003 04:08 PM

p/ale would double, if you order two of them

Posted by: Jonathan on January 17, 2003 04:22 PM

I'd judge from Jonathan's post that we're reaching the happy-hourish end of our competetive stamina.

Posted by: BT on January 17, 2003 05:25 PM

Okay, it's the end of the day and many of these are clever and some are borderline, and I don't see any need to sort out between the two. (Group hug for everybody!) And I will confess that there's several more than I knew about, but the purity of vague/ague still stands.

Some other examples:
dragged/ragged
drugged/rugged
snaked/naked

Thanks for playing, everyone!

Posted by: Gavin on January 17, 2003 05:43 PM

Thanks four/our puzzle.

Posted by: opus dark on January 17, 2003 06:48 PM

Is Mountain Dew a smart drink?

Posted by: hackly_fracture on January 18, 2003 10:18 AM

Jeez, I dunno. I saw a guy on TV head-but a long horn sheep to get some Mountain Dew. That didn't seem too smart.

I can't remember if I was watching an ad or a Fox reality show. I guess if it was Fox the guy would have been trying to marry the sheep.

Posted by: Scott on January 21, 2003 02:01 PM